jaxtell · Oct 03, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

While I was working through the beginning of factions with a character I noticed that someone was advertising for a christian guild. That struck me as kind of wrong. Due to the setting and type of game Guild Wars is, I do not think that there is a place in it for Christianity. Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian myself, I just believe that there is a time and a place to express those beliefs and this is not it.

Stemnin · Oct 03, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Some ppl like to get together in a game with similar "values" to themselves and such, there are all girl guilds, all monk guilds..

Shoitaan · Oct 03, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Its nothing really to do about expressing their beliefs. As Stemnin said, its more to do with playing with a party of like minded people. I can potentially see a lot less trash talk with an ulti-christian guild.. or I could be wrong and theres no difference XD
But yeah, nothing wrong with people of the same faith playing together. Its not like their planning guild bible bashing runs through Kanieng Central or anything

<- Muslim

BoondockSaint · Oct 03, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

This is foolish, people the join a guild because they share some kind of common intrest is fine.When I start playing GW I remember one of the guilds I was apart of was very perverted and as soon as my female character log on and was in the guild hall she was getting the warrior hump, and ppl would always say disgusting things.
Maybe ppl that join a guild advertising that it is christian hope to avoid such things. All in all I think any guild that advertises certain themes are ok EXCEPT for guilds that would premote ideas that have little redemming social value, but large consequences, I.E guilds that advertise defimation,obscenity, guild such as these should not be allowed.

Leon_Ux-ixen · Oct 03, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

I don't see a problem with it. As long as they don't "prech" to others of other faiths there shouldn't be any conflicts. I mean arn't all Guild "Suppose" to be players who share some type of quality or ideal? I mena sure you have the member hungry ones but arn't the bets guilds the ones hwo share an ideal.

Sir Mad · Oct 03, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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All in all I think any guild that advertises certain themes are ok EXCEPT for guilds that would premote ideas that have little redemming social value, but large consequences, I.E guilds that advertise defimation,obscenity, guild such as these should not be allowed.

If you take it that way, guilds are a "private" thing - what's wrong with obscenity then (if the officers let the members they recruit know what they can expect from the guild at the beginning)? I mean, if the players are obscene in the GH or use obscene words/comments in the guild chat but not in public, it should be OK too. If it's not then there are just as many reason to critisize religious/political/whatever guilds.

Dixie Lady · Oct 03, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Shoitaan

Its . As Stemnin said, its more to do with playing with a party of like minded people.

Exactly right. Would you have objected if it had been an aethist guild? I am so surprised that anyone should think there should not be christian guilds

Kusandaa · Oct 04, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

I don't mind those guilds at all. I understand the concept and think it's cool that they make it though. It's pretty fun for those who want to be surrounded by people they feel a connection with; it's easier to have a friendly atmosphere to evolve through the game than constantly bickering about "you don't like my faith" or whatever.

However, I like differences; I'm a gay man, but I don't want to join an all-gay guild, just like I don't want to join an all-necro guild 'cause I'm a necro player. I have enough points in common with my guild, yet I can be unique in it

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But that's just my point of view

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Stalker Haras · Oct 04, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Last i had read the ToSA (Terms of Service Agreement), guild's based off of religion aren't allowed in the game, but they might have changed it.

l)l2UNl( · Oct 22, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

why does it really matter if they are playing together theres nothing wrong about it

i mean you got guilds with frieds that share a common interest. Religion is an important thing to some people me on the other hand...

<==Atheist...

Zui · Oct 22, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by Stalker Haras

Last i had read the ToSA (Terms of Service Agreement), guild's based off of religion aren't allowed in the game, but they might have changed it.

Considering how selctively ANET enforces its own rules, it's not like it really matters.

Sir Mad · Oct 22, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

As this thread has been ressurected...

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You may not organize nor be a member of any pledges or groups within Guild Wars that are based on or espouse any racist, sexist, anti-religious, anti-ethnic, anti-gay, or other hate mongering philosophies.

So apparently there's nothing against religious guilds, provided they do not reject other religions, don't espouse homophobic philosophies, etc.

Minus Sign · Oct 22, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

I was in a Christian Alliance for a while and I don't see where the ToSA or EULA applies really.

There is a fundamental difference between anti-religious and pro-christian; a line too many people are trying to blur imo.

Yanman.be · Oct 22, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Please, keep religion away from games. They have messed up the world enough, don't start messing with the last human bastion....

*lemming* · Oct 22, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

http://www.guildwars.com/community/g...yalknights.php

Hmm.

Father Anansi · Oct 23, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Hey man, if someone wants to play a recently converted Necromancer, more power to them! I've never liked being the minority so i'll stick to my characters polytheistic roots; gives my Ritualist one last thing to explain to her parents in Cantha.

Kcp · Oct 23, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09

So what about the christian group that always wins in HoH's. It's name is an advertisement for a religious product ( the bible on DvD or something along those lines.) That's in-game advertisement for a product.

I can turn the channel when that crap comes on t.v., or close the door in their face when they show up at my doorstep. However you're kinda forced to see it for a few seconds in chat.

IrishCatholicNewYorker · Oct 23, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13

christian guilds are a great idea its a good way to find decent people in guild wars because most players wanting to join a christian guild won't steal scam etc... and once again guilds are for like minded people

and to Yanman.be religion has not messed the world up people who DO NOT UNDERSTAND religion mess the world up ex Osama Bin Laden, and Pope Urban II who was the leader of my religion for a period of time!

<== do i really have to say it's all in the name catholic =)

BuddyLeeX · Nov 01, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Jaxtell, how do you not understand how there is a place in guild wars for christianity? The reason for guilds and alliances are to bind people with similar interests foremostly. Personally I don't see a problem with it, just hop there aren't any crusades in guild wars

Guardian of the Light · Nov 01, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34

I've been in quite a few diverse guilds in Guild Wars.

I can tell you that sex/race/belief etc don't make a difference as to who a person is.

The great thing about guild wars is that it doesn't matter who you are on the outside world just how you play the game.

But ya if someone wants to set up a christian guild I say let em.

Oct 03, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16	#1
jaxtell Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	Christian guild on Guild Wars? While I was working through the beginning of factions with a character I noticed that someone was advertising for a christian guild. That struck me as kind of wrong. Due to the setting and type of game Guild Wars is, I do not think that there is a place in it for Christianity. Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian myself, I just believe that there is a time and a place to express those beliefs and this is not it.

Oct 23, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#16
Father Anansi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Florida Guild: Death By sNu [sNu] Profession: Rt/R	Christianity in GW Hey man, if someone wants to play a recently converted Necromancer, more power to them! I've never liked being the minority so i'll stick to my characters polytheistic roots; gives my Ritualist one last thing to explain to her parents in Cantha.

Oct 03, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26	#2
Stemnin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Some ppl like to get together in a game with similar "values" to themselves and such, there are all girl guilds, all monk guilds..

Oct 03, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29	#3
Shoitaan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Tuskforce Supremacy [Tusk] Profession: Me/N	Its nothing really to do about expressing their beliefs. As Stemnin said, its more to do with playing with a party of like minded people. I can potentially see a lot less trash talk with an ulti-christian guild.. or I could be wrong and theres no difference XD But yeah, nothing wrong with people of the same faith playing together. Its not like their planning guild bible bashing runs through Kanieng Central or anything <- Muslim

Oct 03, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#4
BoondockSaint Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: R/Me	This is foolish, people the join a guild because they share some kind of common intrest is fine.When I start playing GW I remember one of the guilds I was apart of was very perverted and as soon as my female character log on and was in the guild hall she was getting the warrior hump, and ppl would always say disgusting things. Maybe ppl that join a guild advertising that it is christian hope to avoid such things. All in all I think any guild that advertises certain themes are ok EXCEPT for guilds that would premote ideas that have little redemming social value, but large consequences, I.E guilds that advertise defimation,obscenity, guild such as these should not be allowed.

Oct 03, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#5
Leon_Ux-ixen Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: America, how I dispise it... Guild: Order Of The Mystic Phoenix Profession: R/Mo	I don't see a problem with it. As long as they don't "prech" to others of other faiths there shouldn't be any conflicts. I mean arn't all Guild "Suppose" to be players who share some type of quality or ideal? I mena sure you have the member hungry ones but arn't the bets guilds the ones hwo share an ideal.

Oct 04, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#8
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	I don't mind those guilds at all. I understand the concept and think it's cool that they make it though. It's pretty fun for those who want to be surrounded by people they feel a connection with; it's easier to have a friendly atmosphere to evolve through the game than constantly bickering about "you don't like my faith" or whatever. However, I like differences; I'm a gay man, but I don't want to join an all-gay guild, just like I don't want to join an all-necro guild 'cause I'm a necro player. I have enough points in common with my guild, yet I can be unique in it . But that's just my point of view .

Oct 04, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22	#9
Stalker Haras I Didn't Do It Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/	Last i had read the ToSA (Terms of Service Agreement), guild's based off of religion aren't allowed in the game, but they might have changed it.

Oct 22, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37	#10
l)l2UNl( Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006	why does it really matter if they are playing together theres nothing wrong about it i mean you got guilds with frieds that share a common interest. Religion is an important thing to some people me on the other hand... <==Atheist...

Oct 22, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17	#13
Minus Sign Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: Mo/N	I was in a Christian Alliance for a while and I don't see where the ToSA or EULA applies really. There is a fundamental difference between anti-religious and pro-christian; a line too many people are trying to blur imo.

Oct 22, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05	#14
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Please, keep religion away from games. They have messed up the world enough, don't start messing with the last human bastion....

Oct 22, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#15
lemming The Hotshot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu Guild: International District [id???]	http://www.guildwars.com/community/g...yalknights.php Hmm.

Oct 23, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09	#17
Kcp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: OBF Profession: N/	So what about the christian group that always wins in HoH's. It's name is an advertisement for a religious product ( the bible on DvD or something along those lines.) That's in-game advertisement for a product. I can turn the channel when that crap comes on t.v., or close the door in their face when they show up at my doorstep. However you're kinda forced to see it for a few seconds in chat.

Oct 23, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#18
IrishCatholicNewYorker Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL (from Long Island NY) Guild: Rage Against The Dying [RAGE] Profession: Me/W	christian guilds are a great idea its a good way to find decent people in guild wars because most players wanting to join a christian guild won't steal scam etc... and once again guilds are for like minded people and to Yanman.be religion has not messed the world up people who DO NOT UNDERSTAND religion mess the world up ex Osama Bin Laden, and Pope Urban II who was the leader of my religion for a period of time! <== do i really have to say it's all in the name catholic =)

Nov 01, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#19
BuddyLeeX Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	Jaxtell, how do you not understand how there is a place in guild wars for christianity? The reason for guilds and alliances are to bind people with similar interests foremostly. Personally I don't see a problem with it, just hop there aren't any crusades in guild wars

Nov 01, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#20
Guardian of the Light Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Radicals Against Tyrants Profession: W/	I've been in quite a few diverse guilds in Guild Wars. I can tell you that sex/race/belief etc don't make a difference as to who a person is. The great thing about guild wars is that it doesn't matter who you are on the outside world just how you play the game. But ya if someone wants to set up a christian guild I say let em.